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素描时光 -- 一颗八卦的心

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70年代秀

2011-09-04 02:42

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画的时候不必太专心,正是胡思乱想的好时机。

 

 

想起前几天在迅雷上下载《70年代秀》第8季,竟然发现封面上没有Eric(Topher Grace)。之前知道Ashton因为《蝴蝶效应》大火,忙着跑去拍电影了,心不在电视剧上,却不晓得 Topher最后一季也撤了。而且奇怪的是,这小子走得非常决绝,甚至连剧终时的告别秀都没有参加。到网上查原因,结果很不理想,国内朋友们挖得不够深,只是肤浅地说什么拍《蜘蛛侠》去了,发展电影事业去了云云。按常理说,拍电影再忙,不至于对投入了7年时间的成名作如此冷漠吧?本着一颗八卦的心到国外网站上转了一圈,发现海那边有此疑惑的人也不少。看了几篇帖子,综合众人的分析及内部消息,真像总算渐渐地浮出水面了。

 

原来(够八卦的哈),Topher这小子不太合群,平常大家拍完戏后习惯出去聚聚,他却从来都是直接回家。时间久了,说不上是他孤立了大家还是大家孤立了他,剧组成员就渐渐地和他疏远了。情况发展下去越来越糟,一方面他不愿和大家走得太近,另一方面,同事间的亲密状态又让他很不舒服。Ashton(Kelso), Wilmer(Fez), and Danny(Hyde)三人合开了一家餐馆,单单把他甩开了。虽然人家不见得是故意甩他,而他也未必想凑这个热闹,可是落单的感觉毕竟不太好受。此外, Ashton因为《蝴蝶效应》大火也对他造成了冲击。同一个剧组,男一号火不过男二号,这种遭遇摊在不管多么淡定的人身上都是要酝一口气的。

 

在最终的结论出来前,先来看看国外粉丝们的众说纷纭:

 

问答1:

Is Topher Grace a jerk?

Like most celebrities, some internet digging reveals positive and negative fan experiences involving Topher Grace. He's been described as cordial and a jerk as well.

 

TG是个性情古怪的人(混蛋)吗?

就像大多数名人遭遇到的情况一样,网络上的人肉行为揭示出好坏两方面的信息。他一方面被描述成一个热诚而友好的人,一方面又被认为是个性情古怪的人。

 

问答2:

Did the that 70s show cast like topher?

The cast of That '70s Show had respect for Topher as Topher respected his cast members. As far as i know there was no fights on the set. The cast members just did not get along with Topher at one point. The cast, mostly Ashton, Wilmer, Danny, and Mila were outgoing, and they liked to hang out off the set. They also were close on the set. Topher was very distant. Topher didn't really communicate with the cast much. The only person he talked to was Laura, who is Donna on the show. It was said that on the final tapping for Topher, and Ashton ,Topher just did the show, and went home. Ashton stayed, and celebrated with the cast. Its not that the cast didn't like him, it was the fact that he was so distant the cast didn't get along with him. This information was said on true Hollywood Stories- That '70s Show.

 

70年代秀剧组成员们喜欢Topher吗?

成员们都很尊重Topher,因为Topher也很尊重他们。据我所知,拍摄期间并没有什么冲突。在某种意义上,这只是个大家是否能相处得来的问题。每次拍摄结束后,Ashton, Wilmer, Danny和Mila总是喜欢出去聚聚。拍摄的过程中他们也很亲密。而Topher则是一副拒人千里的样子,基本上不跟剧组的成员们交流,惟一能说上话的人是Laura。据说,剧终前需要为topher和ashton录制一个短片,录制结束后,topher径直回了家,ashton则留下来与大家一起庆祝。不能说大家不喜欢他,只是他太冷漠了不容易与任何人亲近。

 

(真是一部好剧啊,可惜在国内不火。小高登密谋亲吻eric的一幕,瞧那小眼神演的多么热切!)

 

问答3:

What was Topher Grace thinking when he left That 70's Show?

Topher Grace turned down a contract from Fox apparently out of spite because Ashton Kutcher was becoming the star and getting all the movie deals. It's too bad. He just didn't feel comfortable around the guys in the Cast anymore, but he didn't really try to make the situation better. The Cast would go out after recording an episode, but Topher would always just go home. Ashton, Wilmer, and Danny own a restaurant together - that's how close of friends they were. But Topher didn't seem to want any part of that, and he eventually started feeling out of place since everyone else around him was so close and had such great relationships. His best on-set relationships were with Laura and Debra.

 

当TG退出70年代秀时,他到底在想什么?

Topher Grace拒绝了福克斯电视台新一季的合同很明显是出于怨恨,因为Ashton Kutcher变成了明星,片约纷至沓来。确实是太糟糕了。他跟身边的成员们相处得不好,又不想努力改善状况。通常每集拍摄结束后大家都出去聚聚,而他总是选择回家。Ashton, Wilmer, and Danny三人合开了一家餐馆,这充分说明了他们是多么亲密的朋友。Topher似乎并不想融入其中,最终他感觉彻底脱离了群体,尤其是看到其他人走得越来越近,关系越来越好。剧中与他关系最好的人是Laura和Debra(母亲和女友)。

 

问答4:

Are Ashton and Topher friends?

In real life, Ashton is friend with Danny (Hyde) & Wilmer (Fez) but he's "never felt close to Topher", the only cast memeber of the show he hadn't punked.

 

Ashton和Topher是朋友吗?

在现实生活中,Ashton与Danny、Wilmer是朋友,但他从未“感觉与Topher亲近过”。Topher是70年代秀剧组中唯一没有出现在Ashton担任制片的系列剧Punked中的成员。

 

 

(现在看这张照片,两人果然貌合神离啊,哈哈)

 

问答5:

Why do you think topher grace left that 70s show?

He got the spider-man movie and thought his career would take off. It didn't. Sometimes they think they are bigger than they are. Mila Kunis lied about her age to be on the show and look how well she is doing, not to mention all Ashton Kutcher has done.

 

The same reason George Clooney left ER at the height of its popularity. He didn't want to be typecasted. He wanted to test the waters in the movie business. The only thing different is Topher is nowhere near George. But I'm sure he's made enough money on That 70's Show that he doesn't really have to worry about money anymore and when someone gets in that kind of situation, you can't really blame him. Put yourself in his shoes, let's say you were financially secure. You're not going to spend even 10% of the money you have. Are you going to stay at your job if you're bored with it and tired of your co-workers egos? Will you stay there if you're jealous of your co-workers side jobs and bragging about them all the time? Probably not.

 

你认为topher Grace为什么要离开70年代秀?

他得到了出演蜘蛛侠的机会,以为自己的事业开始起步了,而实际上没有。有时候,人们总是高估自己。Mila Kunis虚报了年龄才得到了出演70年代秀的机会,看看她现在做得有多好,更不要说Ashton Kutcher在电影方面的成就了。

 

与乔治·克鲁尼在《急诊室》最红的时候离开的原因一样,他不想被定型,想去电影圈里试试深浅。唯一不同的是,两个人现在根本不能同日而语。不过可以肯定的是,通过《70年代秀》他已经赚到了足够的钱,不必再为钱的问题担心了。换位思考一下,如果你在经济上已经高枕无忧了,甚至连10%的存款都花不了,你会继续从事一项无聊的工作,继续和一群自大狂的同事们相处下去吗?继续嫉妒他们的副业,听他们没完没了地吹嘘吗?(好吧,竟然把ashton描述成这样)

 

其他八卦

Did Topher Grace wear a wig on that 70's show?

Yes he did because his hair is short and he wanted a hairstyle of the 70s to blend in.

Topher Grace在70年代秀里是戴着假发吗?

是的,他的头发很短,剧情需要他有一个70年代款儿的发型。(好吧,我再也不相信老外头发的颜色了,除非您的pubic hair是金色的,我一律视同是染出来的。)

 

How tall is Topher Grace?

5’11

Topher Grace多高?

5英尺11英寸。(大概1米80)

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final goodbye

这里有告别秀的一个视频,看到第一男主角将自己孤立在剧组之外真的不是滋味,相比之下ashton就比他随和会做人多了。 

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 爆笑NG片段

这个非常值得一看,fez被jackie欺负掐乳头的一幕很美好,kelso扔唱片吃冰棍的样子都超搞笑。

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好吧,本来是想抛砖引玉的,写到这里才发现实在没有总结的必要了。关于Topher退出剧组的是是非非,外国友人们的答复“比水晶还要清楚”了。多说无益,还是留给好事者自己去猜测吧。结束的时候再PS一下:憋了这么久本来是想写篇有分量的,题目都想好了就叫“落差”,计划以《70年代秀》剧组成员的近况结合自身的经历来写。无奈写着写着就偏了,指尖敲打键盘时脑子里一片空白,只有八卦的喜悦在心中奔涌。这才意识到自己在天涯的八卦版真是消磨了不少时间,什么李莲花与袁立掐架啊,地球天后生了米其林轮胎,冷艳教主的新发型啊什么的,真所谓心有多宽天地就有多宽:只要有一颗八卦的心,再多的蜚短流长咱也能消化掉啊,哈哈。 

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